Q/A Artefatti e Class Hall
  • R3wu0Redazione 02 luglio 2016, 19:55 R3wu0
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    È stata data comunicazione dell'argomento per il prossimo Q/A con gli sviluppatori che si tiene da ormai due settimane il Giovedì, questa settimana tocca ad Artefatti, Class Hall e questline correlate.
    Qui la notizia:
    Blizzard ha scritto
    Join us live on Twitch Thursday, July 7, as we sit down with Lead Quest Designer Craig Amai for our next live developer Q&A. He’ll be answering many of your questions on Legion Artifacts and the related Class Order Hall questlines.

    Feel free to submit any Legion Artifact and Class Order Hall questline specific questions by posting in this forum thread or via Twitter using the hashtag #LegionQA.

    We’re really looking forward to getting the chance to dive in and answer as much as we can, so we hope to see you Thursday at 11 a.m. PT!

    About the Legion Live Developer Q&As
    Every Thursday for the next several weeks, starting at 11 a.m. PT, we’ll be going live on Twitch.tv/Warcraft to answer questions submitted by the World of Warcraft community. Each week will feature a different developer, and we’ll be looking for questions that focus on their particular role on the World of Warcraft development team.


    Ecco qui tutte le info rivelato durante il Q/A di oggi:

    Artifact and Order Hall Relevance
    The team designed the Artifacts and Order Halls to be relevant in the future with additional quest lines and content.
    The team is interested in delivering patch content that fulfills the community's needs.

    Artifact Appearances
    When Legion releases, there is the base artifact appearance, an upgraded one from the Class Hall campaign, a PvE quest line that rewards one, the PvP version, as well as the hidden appearances.
    There is one other Artifact variation that is intended to be in later patches that we have already seen.
    People will unlock all of their Artifact variants and then in the next expansion there will be some way to bring along those appearances. Maybe after Legion is over, you can't earn the appearances anymore.
    The team is looking at a way to allow druids to keep their artifact forms after Legion as well.

    Artifact Respec
    You will be able to respec your Artifact, but there is a high cost.
    Eventually you will be able to unlock all of the Artifact Traits, so respeccing isn't something that will happen often and shouldn't be a huge concern.
    The team doesn't want to tweak traits so much that a free respec is necessary.

    Artifact Knowledge and Catch-Up
    The first 12 traits only have a small cost increase, but after that the cost increases much faster.
    Artifact Knowledge increases the rate you gain Artifact Power.
    Artifact Knowledge allows the team to reduce the huge gap between players that are playing 60 hours a week and 4 hours a week.
    You research Artifact Knowledge at the cost of Order Hall resources. The cost was 1500 for much of beta, but it has been reduced to 500 (a few world quests or other content). It won't be a huge amount of effort.
    Research starts at 5 days per work order. As time goes on after, this automatically gets faster for everyone.
    Artifact Knowledge goes up to Level 25 now. The team might increase that a little bit in the patches, but you won't be working on Artifact Knowledge for the entire expansion.
    If you want to maintain multiple specs at at high level, it will take a similar amount of effort as you would have put in with another expansion.
    You will get your first 12 traits for another spec very quickly thanks to Artifact Knowledge.
    Artifact Knowledge is per character system, not account wide.

    Unlocking Traits
    The team is expecting it to take a few months to unlock every trait in your Artifact.
    The time it takes will vary based off of what type of player you are.

    Hidden Artifact Appearances
    There are a few parts of the Artifact system that aren't equal between all of the classes.
    Every class should feel different and have different experiences.
    Hidden appearances is one area where there isn't equality between the classes and specs.
    Ret Paladin and Arcane mage hidden appearances will be "fun" to unlock.
    Some required Honored with a faction, some require Exalted, some cost lots of gold.
    Some of the more accessible ones are easy to get to help players that identified with a different weapon type, bow vs gun.

    Leveling and Artifacts
    The team balanced all of the classes against each other and then did another balance pass with all of the classes and their completed Artifacts.
    Classes should feel complete and interesting through the leveling experience and at endgame.

    Artifact Appearance Unlocks
    Most of the achievements for unlocking artifact appearances are character specific, but a few are account wide.
    You need to obtain the upgraded model before you can obtain the extra colors.

    Artifacts and Class Balance
    Artifacts Traits are something that can be tuned to maintain class balance, just like your regular abilities and talents.

    Artifact Questlines
    There is some overlap between the Artifact questlines, but not as bad as some players think.
    There are a few specs that either share some content or the setting, but the majority are very unique experiences.

    Artifact Lore and Story
    Artifacts are really different from other weapons because of their history.
    The team wrote out the story of the Artifacts and put it in books in your Order Hall. You can read through this story as you gain Artifact Knowledge.
    The Artifact acquisition quest lines also touch on the story and where the weapons come from.

    Weapon Types
    There are a few of the Artifacts where the weapon type goes back and reflects the old story.
    A big hammer and book is a classic Holy Paladin look from older Warcraft.
    The weapon type changes are also to help the weapon feel unique.
    The Holy Paladin had a mace and shield for a long time, but you don't actually use them in combat.

    Druid Forms
    Feral and Guardian get the weapon and become a representation of the Ursoc and Ashemane. This is why there aren't racial variations.
    Being able to swap back to the regular druid models is a good idea. It won't be in the shipping game but maybe in a patch.

    Artifact Fist Weapons
    Fist weapons have been invisible when sheathed for all of WoW.
    The Artifact Fist weapons are invisible when sheathed because there aren't really points to sheathe them, they are too bulky and clip everything.

    Order Hall Teleports
    The team originally added the teleports because they thought there would be a need to go to your Order Hall frequently.
    It turned out that there wasn't any reason to send players back to their Order Hall frequently, so the teleports were mostly removed.
    It was important that Dalaran was a central hub for the expansion. In the process of removing the teleports, they added the portals in Dalaran and the Dalaran Hearthstone. This makes Dalaran a central hub.

    Order Hall NPCs
    For the most part the team has introduced the famous NPCs that will appear in the Order Halls.
    A few more NPCs might be added in patches.
    The Warrior Order Hall originally had lots of ghosts of the famous Warriors, but it didn't feel appropriate for all of these Human and Orc heroes to appear in this Vrykul place.
    The team shifted to focusing on the Vrykul story and fantasy.

    Order Hall Champions
    It was important that you recognize your Order Hall champions, which is why you are limited to six.
    You need to make choices about who you care about and want to spend time with.

    Order Hall Services
    There aren't many services in your Order Hall, no banks or transmog NPCs.
    There is rested XP in the Order Hall, so you can change your talents there.
    Services remain in Dalaran so that it can be a central hub and you don't spend too long in your Order hall.
    Trade Chat in the Order Hall was allowed so that you aren't missing out or forced to avoid the Order Hall to stay in Trade Chat.

    Hunter Artifact Weapon Types
    Hunters have strong opinions about what weapon type is the main one for your spec.
    The team tried to use the other Artifact Appearances to give players another weapon type choice when this is a problem.

    Artifact Unlock Progression and Groups
    There are no plans to require specific levels of Artifact progression to access content. There still will be item level requirements.
    Artifact unlock progression in premade groups isn't expected to be a huge factor for most groups.
    You can't inspect people and see their Artifact unlock progress.

    Acherus and Order Halls
    Acherus is similar to other Order Halls, as far as the systems and services offered.
    There will also be the same additional content added in patches as all of the other Order Halls
    The team doesn't want to completely change the Order Halls when they are already existing places in the game.

    Selecting Artifacts and Order Halls
    For the Order Halls, the team looked at what represents the class fantasy in the strongest way possible, what locations they connect with really well, and what location was neutral rather than something Alliance or Horde specific.
    Orcs in the Stormwind Chapel wouldn't feel right.
    For the Artifact Weapons, class fantasy was a major consideration, as well as what stands out and feels unique, what had a strong history or the team could create a strong history with using an existing hero, story, or location.
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  • MasterRedzCommunity Manager 02 luglio 2016, 20:11 MasterRedz
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    @R3wu0 Mi rubi il lavoro XD 0
  • R3wu0Redazione 02 luglio 2016, 21:50 R3wu0
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    MasterRedz ha scritto:R3wu0 Mi rubi il lavoro XD

    @MasterRedz Non mi permetterei mai...cerco solo di dare una mano senza la rottura di scatole di essere parte dello Staff
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  • MasterRedzCommunity Manager 02 luglio 2016, 22:15 MasterRedz
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    R3wu0 ha scritto:MasterRedz Non mi permetterei mai...cerco solo di dare una mano senza la rottura di scatole di essere parte dello Staff

    @R3wu0 Sta tranquillo, sto scherzando rofl
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  • R3wu0Redazione 03 luglio 2016, 08:29 R3wu0
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    MasterRedz ha scritto:R3wu0 Sta tranquillo, sto scherzando rofl

    @MasterRedz Non si sa mai...qui il potere da alla testa rofl rofl
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  • R3wu0Redazione 07 luglio 2016, 21:56 R3wu0
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    Q/A finito. Nel primo post ho aggiunto tutte le informazioni rivelate
    Hunters have strong opinions about what weapon type is the main one for your spec.
    The team tried to use the other Artifact Appearances to give players another weapon type choice when this is a problem.
    In queste due cose mi ci ritrovo...staremo a vedere...l'arco usate come aspetto per il BM al momento fa cagare....spero ce ne siano altri

    You can't inspect people and see their Artifact unlock progress.
    Questo potrebbe evitare che il livello dell'artefatto venga usato come ulteriore discriminante per i premade...speriamo...

    Vedremo cosa salterà fuori....
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  • Greymane 07 luglio 2016, 23:58 Greymane
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    #7
    Solo io trovo interessantissimo il fatto che da come sembra, troveranno un modo per darci la possibilitá per mantenere gli aspetti sbloccati degli artifact per il trasmog anche per le exp future? :love:

    il resto diciamo che lo sapevo / me l'aspettavo giá, giocando la beta, ma la cosa che non puoi ispectare l'artifact di un altro player è più che benvenuta, speriamo che migliori la situazione dei premade, concordo con @R3wu0
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  • tazeel 08 luglio 2016, 05:00 tazeel
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    #8
    Direi che dato che hanno totalmente evitato la domanda se ci sarà o no nelle prossime espansioni i casi sono: o non lo sanno ancora e vogliono prima vedere la reazione sul livello o pensano già che saranno solo per questa. 0
  • krukko 08 luglio 2016, 09:29 krukko
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    #9
    ciao a tutti arriverà una traduzione in italiano per i meno pratici in inglese? :D 0
  • TartyMost Valuable Poster 08 luglio 2016, 09:34 Tarty
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    #10
    tazeel ha scritto:Direi che dato che hanno totalmente evitato la domanda se ci sarà o no nelle prossime espansioni i casi sono: o non lo sanno ancora e vogliono prima vedere la reazione sul livello o pensano già che saranno solo per questa.


    @tazeel è probabile non abbiano ancora deciso ma leggo dalla trascrizione che vogliono vedere anche le reazioni dei giocatori al sistema e l'impatto che può effettivamente avere sul gioco.. cmq han detto due cose che potrebbero essere un indizio delle loro intenzioni:

    - People will unlock all of their Artifact variants and then in the next expansion there will be some way to bring along those appearances. Maybe after Legion is over, you can't earn the appearances anymore.
    - The team is looking at a way to allow druids to keep their artifact forms after Legion as well.

    C'è chi legge queste affermazioni come l'intenzione di non portare anche nella prossima espansione gli artefatti, altri invece la interpretano come una conferma che ci saranno e devono trovare un modo per farti conservare le varianti che hai sbloccato anche successivamente ma che dopo Legion non saranno più sbloccabili.
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  • tazeel 08 luglio 2016, 10:09 tazeel
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    #11
    @Tarty spero che c'è li lascino tenere, cioè lasciarli a parte il lore e tutto il lavoro messo dentro il farmare l'artifact power c'è anche la perdita di tutti i bonus che davano. Tipo per citarne uno quello del fire mage ti dà un Hot ogni volta che usi blink. Perderemo tutto quello. 0
  • TartyMost Valuable Poster 08 luglio 2016, 10:16 Tarty
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    tazeel ha scritto:Tarty spero che c'è li lascino tenere, cioè lasciarli a parte il lore e tutto il lavoro messo dentro il farmare l'artifact power c'è anche la perdita di tutti i bonus che davano. Tipo per citarne uno quello del fire mage ti dà un Hot ogni volta che usi blink. Perderemo tutto quello.


    @tazeel Il sistema degli artefatti non è altro che un albero di talenti, qui lo hanno abbinato all'arma, ma puoi applicarlo a qualsiasi cosa... del resto anche se lo mantengono, sarebbe azzerato e in ogni caso, con il fatto che ci sarà il prouning e rimetteranno mani alle classi, non puoi cmq avere la certezza che le skill restino tali e quali.
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  • seraknis 08 luglio 2016, 11:24 seraknis
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    Tarty ha scritto:puoi cmq avere la certezza che le skill non restino tali e quali.

    @Tarty fixed :good:
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  • Greymane 08 luglio 2016, 12:01 Greymane
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    #14
    @Tarty @tazeel

    Io quella frase l'ho interpretata come una "conferma" che gli aspetti potranno essere utilizzabili come trasmog per le future espansioni, ma solo se sbloccati durante Legion (boh)
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  • Imrazor 08 luglio 2016, 13:12 Imrazor
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    #15
    "If you want to maintain multiple specs at at high level, it will take a similar amount of effort as you would have put in with another expansion"

    Alle volte mi chiedo se credano veramente in quello che dicono...
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